Google Chairman Eric Schmidt and Jonathan Rosenberg are on their How Google Works book tour and they got the fun questions from Bloomberg.
At 5:30 in the video:
RUHLE: You mentioned smartphones. How do you feel in the last week when you drive by any Apple store, San Francisco, LA, New York, and there are people lined up around the block? So even though way more people carry Android phones, how does Apple have that desire factor?
SCHMIDT: I’ll tell you what I think. Samsung had these products a year ago.
Amusing.
More Schmidt:
RUHLE: You mentioned smartphones. How do you feel in the last week when you drive by any Apple store, San Francisco, LA, New York, and there are people lined up around the block? So even though way more people carry Android phones, how does Apple have that desire factor?
SCHMIDT: I’ll tell you what I think. Samsung had these products a year ago.
RUHLE: And nobody had a huge party. In the last month when Samsung came out with new products people weren’t losing their mind camping out. How does – what do you think about it?
SCHMIDT: I think Samsung had the products a year ago. That’s what I think.
SCHATZKER: Does it worry you at all that the companies that have adopted Android can’t make as much money in the smartphone business as Apple does? It’s a great business model for Google. You’ve populated the world with Android software through these mobile devices, whether they be tablets, phablets or smartphones, yet increasingly the likes of Samsung and others aren’t delivering the same kind of results.
SCHMIDT: If you look at Digicel as an example, this is a company which has pioneered a low-cost model with an awful lot of customers. They’ve changed the world. They’ve been a good partner. The fact of the matter is you can make a small market share with a lot of profits or you can make the same amount of money with a much larger market share and lesser profits. We go for volume in our strategies.
ROSENBERG: And it’s a model that’s creating far more choice for consumers, and more importantly, it’s driving the cost of smartphones down for consumers.
SCHMIDT: In fact I would say that this brutal competition between Apple and Google over Android and iOS has enormous benefits for consumers worldwide. If you look at the innovation on the Apple side and on the Google side, that competition which I think is the defining fight of the computer industry, it benefits global at the billions of people level
SCHATZKER: Would it be better if it were something more than a duopoly?
SCHMIDT: It’s always good to have more competitors, but trust me, between Apple and Google you’re seeing enormous, enormous racing.
SCHMIDT: And Amazon in fact is an Android user. Remember that Apple is a large Google search partner and a very tough Maps and phone competitor.
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Different’ and ‘new’ is relatively easy. Doing something that’s genuinely better is very hard.
Hardware, I’m not so sure. IOS definitely.
I agree. Honestly, if iOS was an open platform like Android, I might not NECESSARILY buy an iPhone. There are definitely some phones out there I’d consider like the LG G3 or something. The problem with Android phones is Android. I had to use one for about a month and it just felt like Windows XP or something. Ugly and clunky. I know a lot of Fandroids feel the same about iOS, but that was my experience.
Oh, you poor thing, so jealous.
Something tells me your capacity to understand this article is abysmal. That something would obviously be your response – in case this comment leaves you wondering too long.
Doesn’t really seem to matter what Schmidt thinks. And it’s deeply biased anyway.
like a small child
Never heard of Digicel…
Digicel and Lime are the main wireless service providers in the Caribbean
digicel is a huge company throughout the caribbean and latin america and oceania
Oh ok, in other words, it dosen’t matter. Not too many people live in oceania or caribbean.
Isn’t there a sports franchise out there that he can buy and then retire? Seems like a good path for buffoons. Hey Eric, we don’t care what you think or say…
Apple is going to censor this video on YouTube?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znK652H6yQM
Or this ONE ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwM4ypi3at0
Or look at all other phones like Shamsung, HTC, Motorola… they can bend too you intelligent.
actually same guy who did bent the iPhone 6+ tried to bend a Note 3 but was unsuccessful. Just saying.
No…they’ll just show other phones like the samesong, motorola or blackberry doing the same. Don’t be a fool… every thin phone worn in a front jean pocket is sensible to be bent… if you think otherwise, you are the fool.
Try bending a 1980’s Motorola. See where I’m gong with this? That Samsung is a giant plastic brick.
Or, grab a $200 or $200 wine glass and see if you can bend it. Here’s a spoiler – it’s going to break with very little force.
This is a phone, not a football.
It is funny how the apple fans are trying to justify it bending. I feel a lawsuit coming… Can’t wait to see “iPhone 6 recall” flashing on the TV screen
It is even funnier how android fanbois always read and comment on iPhone.
no one is trying to justify it… confused as to how or why someone would
I was an apple fan. I still use 9to5Mac to keep up with them. Still deciding if I want a mac or pc….
Very easy to debunk this video (see attached image.) You can clearly see that his thumbs are near the outer edge of the iPhone 6 plus compared to the Galaxy 1000 (or whatever Samsung’s last hour’s model is called.
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Why would they censor that? The same happens with an iPhone 5.
nice try
Nyko, when the hell has Apple EVER censored a youtube video? Do you have a single instance?
And yes, rational, sane people will expect a thin, aluminum phone to bend when you put all your effort into bending it.
What a pathetic little troll you are.
If Samsung had been selling the iPhone 6 with iOS 8 a year ago I might just have switched!
Yeah you guys had big screens a year ago, and it’s a good thing too. You guys (Samsung) can release your crap first, that way Apple can watch you fail and then they can do things the right way.
That’s quiet frankly the case. These other OEMs just throw in features aimlessly, but Apple is great at refining and marketing them
I just think its weird that while yes, Samsung has had this for over a year, and its not like there was this huge craze over it. But once Apple does it its all of a sudden this HUGE change when it really isn’t a huge change. I don’t know what it is but Apple must put some kind of telepathic cocaine in their advertisements. I can’t really make sense of it.
It IS a huge change for iPhone users, most of whom couldn’t care less what Samsung is doing/has done. The general public doesn’t give a damn about the competition between these corporations, they just like what they like.
Exactly. There’s two options:
Getting something first and okay.
Getting something last and great.
Personally I’d rather the latter. Who wants okay when you can have great. Who cares about having to wait. Great films take longer to make than good ones. Yes Apple don’t always hit a home run but when ever has Samsung? or Sony? or any other phone company. Slow and great is better than fast and okay.
So you are on the S cycle of iphones then. The ones that actually work? The only thing that was apparently stronger than the 2 year old tech in flag ship androids (and theres still a lot of things worse) was the camera. And now that the real camera tests are coming in and not the day 1 take a few snaps tests – shows that even the camera in apple’s latest is faulty. You can give names to old tech like “focus pixels” – but when you cant even get old tech right, why exactly are you waiting? IOS8 doesnt work, the phones are as tough as a coke can. Samsung hit a home run with the note – you cant deny that. Apple has since copied…and every new feature is an old android feature…and contrary to what you say – the android versions still work a lot better than apples.
Schmidth 2014 = Ballmer 2007. Samsung had devices like iPhone 6+ a year ago. Part of it is true. However people are lined up for products but not for Samsung.
To be fair (and poignant), screen size doesn’t define this nor past products. Samsung had nothing like this and still doesn’t.
He’s very quick to point to competition as Google is starting to come under scrutiny from regulators around the world.
He’s still a total sleaze bag though.
He’s a massive sleaze. A snake in the grass. This is guy STOLE essentially what Jobs shared with him as a trusted partner/friend.
Now as for Samsung claiming they “invented” something by going big screen 2-3 years ago (and this sleaze insinuating the same) or throwing in the highest spec hardware everywhere, what these mofos DON’T tell you is that ONE of the main reasons Apple has THE fattest margins in the land is because they don’t jump in the fray until it’s the right time. That has nothing to do with “invention”; it called fiduciary responsibility and supply management. Oh, and it’s not like they don’t know this; they know it painfully well. But instead telling you the real, honest reasons, they bear false witness instead.
No, you dirty scumbag, Samsung never had “this product” … not now and certainly not a year ago. Because “this product” is not what you think it is.
samsung has a 64bit phone with 64bit OS a year ago?
Sure. If you tape two Samsung’s together!
and the greatest reason for moving to 64 bit in the PC world was to stuff more ram in – and iphones still only have 1 GB with nasty multitasking and still achieve bottom of the industry battery life?
“Bottom of the industry battery life” umm no. Its good for the size. Its like saying the prius has terrible range compared to my 100 gallon hummer.
Its good for its size? We are talking a 4.7 inch 720p phone – so it can only really be compared with 2012 flag ships from other competitors. Remember the iphone 6 apparently has a “state of the art”, 2014 20nm processor in it, which should lead to improved battery life. I’ve found phonearena uses the best script for determining battery life under real life useage based on the phones ive owned.
The 2012 Galaxy S3, 4.7 inch 720p display – 6 hours back in 2102 when it was still on ICS, which was notorious for mixed battery life whilst still doing everything IOS8 does.
The iphone 6 achieves 5 hours, 22 mins.
Of course android flag ships have moved onto superior displays since then and superior chip sets – but if you take the few 2014 android phones (none are flagships) that still use a 720p screen around 4.7 inches – it tells a hell of a story of where Apple is at with battery life.
The 2013 moto G – using a bottom of the range snapdragon 400 chipset and 4.5 inch 720p display – 7 hours 12 minutes
The recently released Xperia Z3 compact which uses the near top of the line Snapdragon 801 chipset with a 4.6 inch 720p display – a whopping 10 hours battery life – nearly twice that of the iphone 6.
Is shaving less than 2mm off the thickness of a Z3 compact and having it taller and wider worth having half the battery life? Sorry, but something is really wrong with iphone’s and their battery. I still kick around with an iphone 4s for work and it is incredibly bad – but it seems the iphone 6 isnt much better which makes zero sense considering everyone else is improving battery life not only because the phone is getting bigger.
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph8560/67844.png
“As one can see, it seems that Apple has managed to do something quite incredible with battery life. Normally an 1810 mAh battery with 3.82V nominal voltage would be quite a poor performer, but the iPhone 6 is a step above just about every other Android smartphone on the market. The iPhone 6 Plus also has a strong showing, although not quite delivering outrageous levels of battery life the way the Ascend Mate 2 does. ” http://www.anandtech.com/show/8559/iphone-6-and-iphone-6-plus-preliminary-results
Amazing what a variety of results exist between pro-android site claims and independent sites like Anandtech.
Has Herb set up a new identity or what? Why don’t your troll some other site?
Bashing on some competitor hardware is too easy. No point doing it either…they are fully capable of digging themselves into the hole by releasing sub-par unprepared and untested products out in the wild and let consumers be their beta testers…. I’d rather have something that actually works, is secure, curated and free of most phishing, malware, virus, hack and vulnerability out there… or at least 99% free… feels more secure somehow.
Yes, no bugs !
And the last iOs update today ?
Just 6 Phones…..
How many times has there been a BAD release like this, clearly it should not of happened but it did… BUT and it is a really big but, at least you CAN update IOS unlike most android handsets… ;)
“they are fully capable of digging themselves into the hole by releasing sub-par unprepared and untested products out in the wild and let consumers be their beta testers”
You mean like iOS 8.0.1? Or is turning your shiny new iPhone 6/6+ into an iPod Touch a “feature”?
Samsung had this a year ago?? LOL, Schmidt being Schmidt, always telling these great jokes.
Yeah, they had no fingerprint sensor tech and then pulled a “me too” with a primitive swipe style reader that plain old sucks according to every review and my own experience trying it out. They also used an off the shelf Snapdragon 801 while Apple had already moved into custom 64-bit architecture. Eric is so funny.
You make what more with 64Bits?
Absolutely nothing!
A difference with windows7 32Bits and 64Bits?
Dude. Did you just go full retard there on us?
someone who doesn’t understand CPU architecture and/or doesn’t have a background in software engineering shouldn’t comment on this subject.
You’re quite a special kind of stupid. Sad this is how you choose to spend your time, vomitting nonsense.
Although the difference between 32-bit and 64-bit is normally realised as being able to address more memory banks, however, 64-bit cpu’s also have processors with double the register size of a 32-bit cpu.
Things like number of cores and the base frequency aside, an increased register size when utilised properly (more utilisable compared to multi-cores) boosts your performance. Considering how Apple is behind the design of their chips with iOS in mind this can translate to a real improvement and the benchmark results are in line with it.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8559/iphone-6-and-iphone-6-plus-preliminary-results
A lot. That’s what you get with a 64 bit architecture A7 & A8. It’s not like Intel, where it’s the same instruction set that’s been carried forward for 20 years. The ARM 64 bit instruction set is fully modern, and just taking the same apps from the 32 bit instruction set to the 64 bit instruction set alone yields major performance improvements because Apple was the first to implement the new instruction set fully.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2424668,00.asp PC mag did a full benchmarking suite and showed just what a huge improvement the 64 bit instruction set, along with other engineering improvements, made.
The only phone using the 801 with a 2012 720p screen is the recently released xperia z3 mini. I hate Sony phones – but that phone smokes everything for battery life and runs games smoother than any other Android device. Problem is android flagships left 720p displays in 2012…but it just shows these “off the shelf” chips are more powerful and more energy efficient than what apple produces almost a year later. The 801 has since been eclipsed as well. 64 bit architecture adds nothing to 2014 phones, particularly iphones.
It isn’t about the phone – it’s about the ecosystem. Apple has it, Samsung does not. Is a Samsung phone better than the new iPhone 6? dunno, it’s subjective – but it’s not about just the phone – no matter how much Google and Samsung want to steer the conversation that way.
Tell me about this ecosystem. What is it? What can this ecosystem provide that a Samsung cannot?
I’m not going to dig into it in huge detail, but I will give a couple examples. When I download an album on my computer before heading out the door, I open my iPhone on the bus and the album is in there. When I enter an appointment into the calendar on my iPhone, I can open my MacBook that evening and my calendar is automatically updated based on the changes I made on my iPhone. When I want to watch a movie on my TV that is stored on my MacBook, all I have to do is click “send to Apple TV”, and the movie appears on my television wirelessly. Those are just a few of many, many examples. Can you explain to me how you would do that with a Samsung device?
The biggest scumbag in tech.
Eric gives new meaning to the phrase “Full of Schmidt”!
I think Schmidt is a trying to patch up a rocky relationship with Samsung.. that is what I think.
Schmidt is not to be trusted… that is what we ‘know’.
Maybe if Google didn’t develop crappy interfaces for all of their products people would get more excited about it.
What else should he have said? Hey it’s the boss of Google. He can’t say “Oh yes iP6 is great and we are sorry, that it don’t run Android”?
And let’s all remember that Google really started the digital mass Revolution. And would we have iP6 now without competition? Or would it be on the level of the 4s?
Think of it.
My Galaxy Note 1 (that I owned in 2012) blew the iPhone 6+ out of the water. Stylus operation, superb AMOLED display (blacks are black), great bettery life, drop and bend proof!, superb still and 1080P video quality (Note 3 & 4 shoot outstanding 4K video), NFC, innovative apps and features – such as slide to the right to send a text from the address book (little things like that matter) etc.
Love Apple, but they blew it with the 6. No innovation. HTC One (never mind the M8) is better and it’s over a year old. It annoys me that Apple fans are so devoted, they cannot pass a fair judgements call.
I’m typing this on a 2013 MB Pro 15″ Retina, which I acknowledge is (except for the 2014 edition!), probably the most capable laptop on the planet (I hate Windows!), and the MacBook Air 13″ probably the most practical laptop on the planet, and the Mac Mini the best business computer on the planet, but the iPhone 6 is effectively an iPhone 1/2G with a superb display and powerful graphics processor. Where’s is the tough display? The stereo video recording audio? open NFC? Stereo speakers? Wireless charging (like the LG G3 & Nexus 5)? etc. It’s not good enough!
Because of the arrogance of this guy, Apple really, really needs to create its own search engine or buy out DuckDuckGo. Honestly, this guy gets on my nerves. I don’t doubt Samsung can make products like the iPhone because the technology is there for any manufacturer willing to spend the money to build a high-quality smartphone. However, it’s just not that simple when it comes to melding hardware and OS together. It’s likely Samsung doesn’t have its own 64-bit processor or it probably would have had one in its shipping products by now. If it was that simple everyone would be doing it. Samsung needs to dump Android and get the balls to use Tizen if the company ever expects to evolve.
Please tell me why these phones are all over the place then? Why are they trailing to Apple? Surely as many genius brains and money over at Google…it can be just marketing. Listen. Its not the hardware, its the software. I just don’t like the interface. Most people don’t, if they did they would use them. Hardware-wise most of these phones are comparable. Its now about the user experience. Once you understand that then maybe they will make some noise. Until then…can we please get over this tired azz debate. Its more than old now.
samsung had 64bit processors last year? why dont they have any this year? (sarcasm of course)
stopped using google search long time ago. Thank you Duckduckgo!
Google needs to shut the fuck up.
Eric Schmidt is nothing more than a talking head for Wall St, if you are going to listen to a Google CEO listen to Larry Page.
Weasel thief
If samsung had the iPhone 6 version last year why didn’t they have lines around the block and selling 10 million units over a weekend? Hmmmmmm!
Apple proves you can fool a lot of people at least once a year.
Just because something is popular doesn’t mean it’s decent.
McIphone.
Just because you say something doesn’t mean it is true.
Just because you’re stupid dosen’t mean you’re a retard. You just are a retard.
Not true, you can have a good product and fool your users 1-2 times. You need stellar products to make this magic every time. 10 millions iPhone sold in the first weekend? You can’t cheat on this. You are just trolling.
Because they’re all hot air, lije herb the turd.
Apple is really good at marketing, that is why they have the lines. They know how to generate the hype and get people to line up. They are the best at this! It also helps them sell lots of phones with poor durability and a feature set 3 years behind even Windows phones.
Absolutely. It’s also a cult of people who blindly buy whatever is put in front of them and don’t ask questions.
Kool Aid 6 and Kool Aid 6 Plus.
You’re one to talk. You’re so far up Samsungs ass it’s hard to tell wher they stop and you begin. You are a fucking moron.
Yeah they do. That’s why I got 1/4 of the price back for an iPhone I used for 3 yrlears that ran iOS 8 great. Go back tto your fagdroid site iar.
Your’re really god at shoveling shit. Eat some.
After looking at the title of this I’m sure herb just jizzed his underwear
Wher’s the 64bit processor that Samsungs had for the last year? No where.
What could Schmidt have really said there, though? “Yeah I’m butthurt that Apple has better mindshare than we do?” It was admittedly a loaded question. I think going along with the Fandroid narrative and appealing to their platforms fans was the safest way to answer the question.
Regardless, the rest of the interview was pretty informative. The guy makes a lot of good points.
Great interview. Google of course goes for volume so they get more user data to refine their search/ads technique. They don’t care nearly as much about the smartphone hardware companies.
That’s because that is what Google is in business for. Getting data to whore they deemi mportant to whore out to the highest bidding companies to sell advertising and SEO. THEY ARE SHIT LIKE HERB AND THE GLFAGDROIDS ALL OVER THE WORLD.
Anyone can tell me what’s the different between Schmidt, Samsung, Google and a thief?
Herb the turd can. Because they are schmidt. Or full of schmidt up to their eyeballs.
What a clown
The difference between Apple and Samsung is same feature a year ago but no body Q up and a yr later Q up at Apple store.
He is right! Samsung had similar hardware the problem is the SOFTWARE!!
The only thing similar from Samsung is the size. The hardware and software don’t even compare. Samsung does everything on the cheap. All performance tests show the iPhone 6 and 6Plus outperform all competitors in every way. Schmidt is talking through is butt.
Keep trying Schmidt. When every Android maker except Samsung isn’t even turning a profit, your claims of low-cost models competing are just transparent bunk.
The sheer amount of features and engineering that the iPhone 6 has that trump Samsung, let alone the features that iOS 8 has that Android won’t have until L is released put the lie to your ‘they had the product a year ago’ claims.