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iPad Pro review roundup: Bigger is better, Pencil is great for drawing, iOS limiting factor as PC replacement


The iPad Pro went on sale at Apple this morning (after a few retailers jumped the gun)and now the reviews are out from a wide variety of tech publications. The iPad Pro features a large 12.9 inch Retina Display, a powerful A9X processor, quad-speaker layout and more. The Pro starts from $799 and maxes out at $1079 for the 128 GB WiFi + Cellular model. However, the most interesting features are arguably the accessories, like the Apple Pencil stylus and Smart Keyboard, which run an additional $99 and $169. The accessories are almost more important than the iPad hardware itself in making this a true PC replacement and — ultimately — a compelling purchase.

We’ve rounded up the iPad Pro reviews from various publications after the break …

Walt Mossberg from The Verge says that the iPad Pro is a great consumption tool but the Smart Keyboard is lacking. He also mentions that despite the powerful internals, iOS continues to limit the true functionality of the device compared to a MacBook. He thinks the Pencil is good enough to appeal to real artists and the Pro form factor appeals to enterprise and business uses, but market for mainstream consumers is small.

You can get a lot more done with iPad apps than with the paltry selection of tablet / touch-first apps available for the Surface. But, because Apple hasn’t made a great keyboard, the iPad Pro isn’t a complete replacement for a great laptop like the MacBook Air — even for a tablet guy like me.

The iPad Pro will no doubt make a lot of Apple users happy, especially if they use it for graphics. But I won’t be buying one, and I don’t recommend that average users do so either.

Federico Viticci, from MacStories, who uses an iPad almost exclusively for his writing endorses the iPad Pro with high praise. I think the takeaway here is if you liked the iPad already as a work tool, then the iPad Pro just makes it even better. Viticci points out that multitasking on iPad Pro is almost like using two full-sized iPads in portrait, which is a big boon for productivity. However, the Slideover interface for selecting apps for the right-hand window is frustrating to use.

The device I’ve used every day for a year to get my work done for this site now seems tiny and limited, with small apps, less content shown on screen, and a constrained multitasking interface. I know that it’s only been a week, and I do believe that the Air 2 is a great device for lots of people, but I feel like all the work I’ve done on the iPad and iOS has led me to this point. I’m ready to take my iPad setup to the next level, and I think my workflow can benefit from improved hardware and a more capable version of iOS.

In the WIRED review, David Pierce puts strong focus onto the accessories. The Apple Pencil is smart because it has privileged access to iOS; pairing is as simple as placing it in the Lightning port. The Pencil accuracy is very good according to Pierce and claims it can be used for fine art, calligraphy and more — things that naive third-party iPad styli are just not good enough for.

However, Pierce is less impressed with the Smart Keyboard. He says its okay but third-parties will likely be able to replicate the same features and form factor without much difficulty. In fact, many have already done so with keyboard cases for existing iPads. Despite improvements in iOS 9, using a physical keyboard with an iPad remains a challenge.

A strange thing happens when you sit down at a 13-inch device with a keyboard, though: you expect it to work like a laptop. And the iPad Pro doesn’t. Its split-screen multitasking is handy, but only lets you do two things at once. The Smart Keyboard doesn’t support keyboard shortcuts in most apps, at least until developers add them. (Handy tip: press and hold the Command key in any app to see all available shortcuts.) You can Command-Tab to switch between apps, Command-Shift-H to go home, and Command-Space to open Spotlight. But why can’t you change the volume with the keyboard? Or turn the tablet off? Where’s the escape key? Why can’t you just start typing when you’re on the home screen to bring up the search, the way BlackBerry used to do it? Why isn’t there a search key that works in every app? Seriously, where is the escape key?

The iPad Pro A9X is definitely fast. CNET ran Geekbench scores that place it comparably against mid-range laptops. It’s just whether that power is put to good use on the iPad software side. It will be interesting to see this chip trickle down to smaller iPads in future, so the entire lineup can benefit from the speed.

But can the iPad Pro take on “real” laptops? Tests between PCs, Macs and tablets are necessarily more anecdotal, but using the Jetstream browser benchmark, a MacBook Pro and Surface Pro 4 came out on top. But when you consider that both of the computers were running full-on Intel Core i5 chips, the iPad Pro’s performance was quite good.

But speed, on something like an iPad, is relative. The iPad Air 2 still feels fast running iOS 9, even split-screen multitasking. I can get plenty of everyday work done on that, too. Speed depends on the specialized apps and tools that can take advantage of the iPad Pro’s power. There just aren’t enough optimized iPad Pro apps, yet, to determine what the difference could be.

ArsTechnica ran benchmarks and found the iPad Pro performing on par with some MacBooks:

We’re looking at MacBook Air-class CPU performance and MacBook Pro-class GPU performance, so the iPad Pro ought to be able to handle more multitasking features with aplomb as Apple sees fit to add them. Professional 3D apps like AutoCAD and the Complete Anatomy app Apple showed off in September all seem to run just fine, too.

Joanna Stern has a good summary of the mixed reaction to the iPad Pro, in how it’s a good laptop with a lot of edge-cases and many small limitations. The iPad Pro represents a weird dichotomy where for certain tasks it excels, like drawing, music creation or writing focused essays, but in other use cases — it remains primitive in power. Stern flags up the awkward iOS file sharing system and multitasking limitations (like being unable to put two Safari windows side-by-side) as outstanding big issues that hold back the Pro as a computer.

I brainstormed for my video using the Paper app, dragging in photos and videos, marking them up with handwritten notes. I edited a short video by cutting and moving around clips with my finger. I sliced off what looked like a real human leg in an app called Complete Anatomy.

That’s why answering “So… what is it?” is so hard. The Pro may seem wedged between iPads and MacBooks, but it will be your main computer in the future. As our phablets push smaller tablets into retirement, the big tablet and its accessories will do the same for our traditional computers. For now, however, it may be easiest to step back and see the Pro as a… really good, really big iPad.

Overall, the response to iPad Pro is the obvious one. It’s a bigger, more capable iPad … but it’s still an iPad with the accompanying iOS limitations. The iPad Pro is an even better consumption device thanks to the beautiful screen and impressive speakers. As a creation device, it can be used for real work for some people but it’s not a universally-useful product like a laptop is. Additions to the app ecosystem will help improve this. For accessories, the Apple Pencil seems like a big hit and should be very appealing for creative artists who want to doodle around on a ‘professional’ drawing tablet. However, the Smart Keyboard is somewhat lacking and doesn’t really justify its $169 price tag.

Let us know in the comments if you are planning on picking up an iPad Pro and what your intended use cases are … The first iPad Pro deliveries are due this Friday, although many stores have same day pickup options.

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  1. The limiting factor in Canada is the price. For a Gold Colour iPad with cellular and WiFi it is going to set you back $1,429.00 before tax

    • PhilBoogie - 7 years ago

      Cool story, but you haven’t explained what the limiting factor is.

    • rnc - 7 years ago

      Yes, and you went directly to the most expensive version just because…

      • taoprophet420 - 7 years ago

        Barry probably needs or wa t cellular connectivity. Which I could see many enterprise users wanting. Apple’s $129 premium for LTE has always been way to high. I think all models should support LTE. The price is less of a factor if you do installment plans through your carrier. It’s $45 a month through AT&T and Verizon.

      • I already own a 128GB iPhone 6s Plus and if I was going to buy an iPad I would take the one with the most memory and connectivity. Just seems a little pricey since a iMac 21.5 is selling for $400 buck more for a base model.

      • PhilBoogie - 7 years ago

        But an iMac doesn’t come with a battery¡

    • Not sure what that translates too in the UK, but that is a lot of money I do wonder if that was a mistake if its took close to a Laptop your expectations get raise/ compare it in features and functions and iPad will always loose that game. But you don’t need to get Cellular do you?

  2. cedric108 - 7 years ago

    People underestimate the potential of a touch screen-oriented OS. Our first computer was a desktop PC or a laptop, but look at our kids, their first computers are smartphones and tablets. The new generation will prefer tablets over traditional laptops.
    And tablets are not going to “replace” PCs. We usually drive cars, but we still need trucks. The word “replace” is wrong.

    • rnc - 7 years ago

      The same people that were acostumed to text interfaces, command prompts and basic interpreters reacted the same way to GUI computers like the Mac.

  3. People who were raised in a mouse/windows world don’t understand how the iPadPro can replace their laptop.

    People who were raised in an iOS world do (people under 25)

    • vandiced - 7 years ago

      Can you do EVERYTHING on an iOS device you can do on a mouse/Windows/Mac ? If the answer is “no” than you are 100% wrong.

      • rnc - 7 years ago

        Yes, you can.

      • JBDragon - 7 years ago

        Who says you have to do EVERYTHING a Mac or Windows PC does? For example, I’m not going to be running a PLEX server on a iPad Pro, nor would I want to! I wouldn’t have my weather station plugged into my iPad Pro to report the weather to a number of sites. Then again these examples I wouldn’t normally do on a Laptop type device anyway. Better on a Desktop that doesn’t move.

        NO file system on the iPad, but then again, do you need one? You can get around that by using iCloud drive or Dropbox, etc on the iPad. I don’t think you’d want to do CAD software on a iPad, but you wouldn’t want to on a Laptop either, unless it was plugged into a nice large monitor or once again used on a Desktop with a large monitor.

        There is a App for pretty much everything. While you may be used to doing something one way on a Windows or Mac computer, you can generally find a different way to do the same type of thing. For many, a iPad is more then good enough to do everything on. Just like a Chromebook is good enough for many to do what they need to do. They don’t need a Full on OS that can be used for anything and everything. Windows can be complete overkill.

        There’s full on Office on the iPad, so you can’t even use the “Can’t run Office” excuse anymore. Who says you have to run Windows software. Lots of iOS Apps that do the same or better. My older iPad 3 is used at work for a number of things, you wouldn’t think it could do, and yet can do it. Some people really seem to be closed minded or stuck in their ways. I’ve been using Computers since my Commodore Vic 20 and a Tape drive. My brothers young kids are growing up using the iPad. If the iPad does everything you need it to do, then it does EVERYTHING!!!! That’s all that matters.

      • vandiced:

        for now. The limitation is the Apps not the hardware. With the ipad Pro Apple has provided the hardware powerful enough to do everything you can do on a run of the mill laptop. Now its up to App makers to make the Apps.

    • Mario A Giambanco - 7 years ago

      I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. I started on PC’s with DOS 5.0 – have owned every iPhone and ordered an iPad Pro this morning and I’m 35.

      My father – who started with PC’s when he bought me my first – said he’s ordering one and he’s 50+

      I wanted the iPad Pro for the pencil’s precision – I enjoy drawing and could never get used to using a mouse to draw with. I always wanted a Wacom Cintiq but could never justify the price. The iPad Pro hopefully provides both; a laptop replacement with the ability to draw on the screen. If I can write code with it also as easy as I can on my Macbook Pro (ordered the keyboard as well) then it may very well be my laptop replacement.

  4. I just ordered mine… we are planning to build some products for this thing, but that aside as a user I am really looking forward to getting my hands on it. I bought the original iPad 2 and shaped my work stream around the iPad 2 and final design work on a iMac for final work. But over the years Apple failed to deliver features or services that ever lived up to the promise. The iPad pro is the first product or iPad for how many years I have invested in… lets see if Apple can live up to their Promise this time round…. in short excited, but tentative.

  5. DavGreg - 7 years ago

    I bought a new MacBook Pro Last week, a new Mac mini the week before and an iPad Air2 about a month ago.

    Do not see the value in the iPad Pro unless we get access to the file system.
    The price is also too high. Charging extra for the Cell Data Radio in 2015 is more than a bit greedy- especially at the list price.

    • rnc - 7 years ago

      Why do you need access to the file system?

      To mess with the system and install virus, dele files you shouldn’t?

      • DavGreg - 7 years ago

        Apple’s syncing is awful and has never been good on iOS. The ability to drag and drop files or a folder of files would work very well,
        That would be the first.

      • quandmeme - 7 years ago

        I’ll explain what I want from a file system. If I have three files in a network drive that I want to email to a client, the iPad is incapable of making that a tolerable process with any software the business guys at my Apple store have recommended.

        Imagine I receive a word or pdf attachment and need to put it on the network. Open each file separately in Good Reader. Navigate to the network drive by flick-scrolling (because no network capable apps have sliders or type-to-search). Repeat with other files.

        Editing and attaching those files are a terrible pain when you are not talking to iCloud. My company cannot move everything to someone’s iCloud account or something. For me to use this effectively, I have to be able to deal with files.

    • PhilBoogie - 7 years ago

      The cellular model comes with Assisted GPS and GLONASS, on top of the cellular radio, antenna and SIM tray.

      • DavGreg - 7 years ago

        That still does not explain a more than $100 increase on a Thousand dollar item.

    • JBDragon - 7 years ago

      Why do you need a file system? Get with the times. Use iCloud drive or DropBox. There’s your file system!!! You can access those files in Apps on the iOS device and on your PC’s, etc. What’s the problem? Stuck in the past?

      • DavGreg - 7 years ago

        The cloud is insecure.
        Apple has iOS so locked down that a SanDisk Jump drive connected to it cannot transfer files to it except within an application.
        That is ridiculous/

  6. PhilBoogie - 7 years ago

    Stopped watching The Verge vid after I heard vocal fry

  7. davidt4n - 7 years ago

    The surface pro 4 inside the video makes the ipad pro looks like sp4 older generation tablet

  8. mytawalbeh - 7 years ago

    I need to see OS X when it docked to Keyboard.

  9. Robert - 7 years ago

    My iPad Air has already 99% replaced my old MacBook Pro. I’ve never once connected my iPad to iTunes and hope I never have to. And the MacBook Pro gets used about once a month as an archive of old documents.

    My wife often uses the iPad Air to watch video in bed. However the sound sucks and the IPad Pro will be much better.

    We use our iPad primarily for study and creating documents that will be printed as well viewing websites. Being able to write an essay with source or reference material open in an adjacent app will be an excellent feature that promises to greatly enhance our experience. It will also be nice to create documents at very close to the actual size they will print.

    I never carry a keyboard with my iPad Air. However, the fact that the new keyboard has no battery and is integrated into the cover makes it highly appealing to me.

    Up until now there has been no good solution for taking notes whilst listening to a lecture – I revert back to paper so that I can diagram, doodle and use abbreviations (which may annoyingly auto-correct with the iOS keyboard). However, the Pencil has real promise to solve this problem. It’s diameter and length closely match that of the pens that I use daily

    So yes, I purchased the iPad Pro, keyboard and pencil

    • JBDragon - 7 years ago

      Yes, the iPad keyboard SUCKS, which is why I always use a Bluetooth Headset for my audio which is 100 times better. A larger iPad to hold up in bed might be a hassle. I have a 50″ Plasma mounted on my Bedroom wall with a new AppleTV 4. I have some Sony Wireless Headphones that are plugged into the Audio out jacks of my HDTV that work for any of my devices. You can then play a video n a small device like a iPhone and Airplay for the BIG SCREEN and still be quite with the Headphones. Or just you the Youtube App on the AppleTV directly, along with others and the growing list of Apps on that. Different options I guess. I’d like a iPad pro, but for the bed, I don’t know. I use my iPad 3 a little, but it’s kind of heavy. My brother has one of them large stands that can hold tablets. you can use it while sitting in a chair and it’ll hold your tablet, or laying in bed and it can hold it for you and it just hovers over you. That’s another option.

      The keyboard hasn’t been getting the best reviews and seems over priced, but maybe holding out for a better 3rd party option to get released may be a better move.

  10. Mario A Giambanco - 7 years ago

    Kinda odd that when I ordered this morning around 7am – the iPad Pro is scheduled to be delivered this coming Monday but the Pencil and keyboard are on back order until 2nd week of December.

    Shouldn’t they be roughly 1 to 1? You can’t use the Pencil on any other device so it’s not like some people would buy 2 of them. Same with the keyboard.

    Obviously, not everyone buying an iPad Pro will also buy the Pencil and keyboard, but it should be closer then 3-4 weeks out.

  11. CranApple (@MoreCran) - 7 years ago

    A good number of people in the ‘masses’ find the fact it’s not a “full blown” operating system a plus, not a minus. The problem with tech journalists is the of course they are techie, and most of their readers are techie, so they do a very poor job of what the market (i.e. the masses) overall wants, needs, and will buy.

    • CranApple (@MoreCran) - 7 years ago

      Perhaps the better title would have been
      “iPad Pro review roundup: Bigger is better, Pencil is great for drawing, iOS another bonus factor as the device is now more powerful but is still much simpler than a PC”

  12. freediverx - 7 years ago

    The iPad Pro may have the horsepower to compete with some notebooks in raw processing power, but its software and ergonomics are still crippled by all the same limitations we have on its smaller and older siblings.

    Ergonomically, the iPad Pro’s design is nominally suitable when placed on a hard surface, but its weight distribution and fixed angle keyboard stand make it impractical to use on an actual “lap top” or other soft surface, where it will fall over at the slightest touch. The touch-based interface prevents the option to use a trackpad so you must constantly reach up from the keyboard to interact directly with the screen – which is inefficient and causes fatigue. Multi-tasking is limited to two apps at a time and the interface for accessing the feature is awkward and cumbersome. And of course file management on iOS is still a joke.

    From a technological perspective, the iPad Pro can be a strong competitor in the laptop arena in terms of speed, display quality, size, weight, and battery life. With the Pencil accessory, it’s also a powerhouse for illustrators. But unless Apple is willing to make extensive changes in iOS to make it behave more like OS X, it will continue to be a poor substitute for a Macbook for anyone wanting to get any real work done.

    • CranApple (@MoreCran) - 7 years ago

      “The touch-based interface prevents the option to use a trackpad so you must constantly reach up from the keyboard to interact directly with the screen – which is inefficient and causes fatigue.”
      ** you are forgetting the new keyboard includes a trackpad like cursor movement feature

      “Multi-tasking is limited to two apps at a time and the interface for accessing the feature is awkward and cumbersome”
      ** you are forgetting that for the vast majority of the masses focus on a single app or at most two apps at a time. Not having to deal with window management means the max of two apps is actually a bonus

      “file management on iOS is still a joke.”
      ** you are forgetting that the masses can’t figure out file management for the life of them. They find it the hardest thing about learning to use a computer

      “it will continue to be a poor substitute for a Macbook for anyone wanting to get any real work done.”
      ** rewrite to “it will be a poor substitute for those stuck on old computing paradigms or those who actually have needs that only a full blown PC can deliver. Luckily, since the this demographic is shrinking in percentage terms every year as younger computer users come online and as iOS grows more powerful, the iPad Pro looks primed to be an important cog in Apple’s computing ecosystem. **

      Note: The power shift is occurring in strange ways. It only occurred to me a few weeks ago that I can edit 4K (!) video on my phone. In fact, I can do it better and faster on my phone with the touch based interface — I actually prefer it and it save me the big data transfer of unedited video. It was only a few years ago I used this as an example of the things “you’ll never do better on your device, so you’ll always need a computer”. I was clearly wrong, and it happened way sooner than I ever imagined.

      • freediverx - 7 years ago

        ** you are forgetting the new keyboard includes a trackpad like cursor movement feature

        If it works as well as it does on the iPhone 6’s keyboard, that’s a nifty feature. But I wasn’t referring to cursor placement within text. I was referring to direct interaction with screen elements. For example, if you’re on the home screen how do you open an app without tapping on the screen? How do you quickly interact with an app’s controls and fields? All of this is fine in “tablet mode” but it’s a handicap when using a keyboard in “notebook mode.”

        ** you are forgetting that for the vast majority of the masses focus on a single app or at most two apps at a time. Not having to deal with window management means the max of two apps is actually a bonus

        That’s fine if all you’re doing is writing an email while monitoring incoming text messages. But try working with that limitation while creating a report or presentation that includes text, images, tables, and data from various sources, including some edits to some of those various files along the way. I agree this product is fine for casual use, but it’s very limiting for what most people would consider real work.

        ** you are forgetting that the masses can’t figure out file management for the life of them. They find it the hardest thing about learning to use a computer

        That’s great if you have a career in the fast food industry but what about people with real jobs? In the spirit of simplifying file management for those who don’t understand it, they’ve made it infinitely more difficult for those who do (you know, the folks doing the actual work). Try organizing or finding various files related to a specific project using iOS. You can’t, because the OS is focused around apps instead of on documents and projects. The problem is magnified in a networked environment.

        ** rewrite to “it will be a poor substitute for those stuck on old computing paradigms or those who actually have needs that only a full blown PC can deliver. Luckily, since the this demographic is shrinking in percentage terms every year as younger computer users come online and as iOS grows more powerful, the iPad Pro looks primed to be an important cog in Apple’s computing ecosystem. **

        Yes, with corporate America’s continuing obsession with automation, downsizing, and offshoring good paying jobs, the percentage of workers who need a real computer will diminish, along with the fraction of the population that can afford expensive products from Apple.

      • “The touch-based interface prevents the option to use a trackpad so you must constantly reach up from the keyboard to interact directly with the screen – which is inefficient and causes fatigue.”
        ** you are forgetting the new keyboard includes a trackpad like cursor movement feature
        I think he’s referring to using the Smart Keyboard. It doesn’t have trackpad so you have to touch the screen. in most of the reviews I’ve read that seems to be the biggest complaint. The keyboard still requires touching the screen for certain interactions. Personally, I think it be better to forgo the keyboard until a software update gives it better usability. .

  13. taoprophet420 - 7 years ago

    For me the limiting factor is that Apple has not done iPad specific iOS versions since the first 2 iPads. iOS for iPad’s has been most.y a blown up version of iPhone for way to long. iOS doesn’t take advantage of the extra screen real estate of iPads or the increased processing power. Control center could add more functionality on iPads the. iPhone, but doesn’t. Why do I get more editing tools in landscape mode on my 6 plus then Air 2. Apple should have iPad specific iOS updates in the Spring better optimized for the extra screen space.This spring Apple should have iOS 9.5 for iPads and then iOS 10.5 for overall iOS updates and morre specific iPhone features.

    Right now the iPad Pro is overpowered and the MacBook underpowered. The MacBooks should had Apple built chips or waited for the slightly more powerful Sklake chips. Ok would have to take a MacBook Air over a MacBook do to how much more powerful the Air is. Apple should expirmented with the MacBook with a device that had a IOS and OS X Ui. They really don’t need to have 2 OS’s just different Ui. Apple doesn’t need 3 ultraportable machines between 12″ and 13″

    My reason for holding back on the Pro is iOS isn’t optimized well for it yet. The total cost of owning with Apple Pencil and the keyboard makes you consider a MacBook Air. If Aple combined the best parts of MacBook and IPad Pro it would be ultimate portable. Microsoft has the right idea with the Surface Book. It’s a little pricey, but Apple should made the MacBook this type device that combines the iPad Pro and MacBook.

  14. peters2 - 7 years ago

    Was waiting for iPad Pro to be released and later decide if I should buy iPad Pro or Surface Pro 4, looked at multiple reviews, most favoring Surface Pro 4. Below review was a decent comparison between the two.

    Surface Pro 4 has desktop-class processors ranging up to the Core i7 vs. the iPad Pro’s mobile ARM processor

    RAM up to 16GB vs. the iPad Pro’s 4GB maximum
    Storage up to 1TB vs. the iPad Pro’s 128GB maximum

    USB port for easily connecting a broad array of industry-standard devices

    Dedicated docking solutions that dramatically expand peripheral support

    Multi-monitor support up to two external monitors (a total of three independent workspaces)

    Built-in microSD card support with support for external application installation

    Complete support for all third-party input devices, including keyboards, mice, trackpads, joysticks, etc.

    My decision was just made easier, thank you for all the informative reviews.

  15. woodypwx - 7 years ago

    Yeah, sure…. every productivity these days is either painting, taking notes or video editing….

  16. Oflife - 7 years ago

    ***WARNING! *** The Verge video review includes imagery that may offend some: A cat licking it’s bum. Euwww, how igross!

  17. Domingo E Mojica - 7 years ago

    Apple thinks that everyone is an artist or somekind of designer that will be mostly “drawing, and sketching” stuff like that! But, what about all of us Road Geeks that need to be able to “print to PDF” to be able to send an RFQ, PO, drawing to someone else. Or heck even, WTF, to print a paper copy!!! So 1990’s.

    That’s real life for allot of people that work and create real VALUE. So until Apple get their head out their butt, and develop iOS into a real operating system, that will allot us to use it the the way we need, I’m not looking that way.

  18. Mogens Skjold - 7 years ago

    I want it, and I want it bad – mostly because of Apple’s Pencil, though … Been wanting a digital sketchpad for a long time, and the noise, bulk & weight of cintiq companion / surface pro didn’t really sit with me..


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